Flowing With Spirit
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Flowing With Spirit
Navigating Through Anxiety and Emotional Whirlpools in Pursuit of Inner Peace
Struggling to navigate the tumultuous sea of emotions and anxiety? You're not alone. Join us and our guest as we reveal the profound influence our feelings have on life's daily dance, from the way we react in a crowded parking lot to the lasting ripples of familial discord and the scars left by divorce. We'll uncover how tuning into our emotional GPS—differentiating anxiety-induced fears from gut instincts—is a crucial step towards inner trust, especially after life-altering events. This episode is a treasure map of sorts, guiding listeners through the intricate relationship between mental well-being and everything from societal expectations to gut health.
Ever felt suffocated by societal pressures, especially those around milestones like marriage and childbearing? We shed light on these shadows, sharing candid, personal reflections that resonate with the maturity we felt prematurely as children. The episode serves as an open diary, with poignant stories of dietary impacts on emotional states and surprising facts about fecal transplants. My guest and I journey through the landscape of trust within our relationships, pausing at my personal vista of growth within my current partnership. It's an invitation to witness the evolution of the self, a testament to the power of embracing personal development.
As we wrap up, we cast our gaze towards the horizon where professional aspirations meet spiritual awakenings. From the energetic footprints we leave in our careers to the cathartic release found in heartfelt conversation, this episode is an emotional detox in itself. We offer insights on self-validation, the magic of simple joys, manifestation practices, and the serendipity of spiritual connections. If you're yearning to set intentions and ride the wave of spiritual growth, then this dialogue is your calling. Embark with us on this transformative quest to align with joy and harness the power of intention.
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Her, though is rough, especially in like the parking lots. Some lady and maybe the other day I didn't even do anything, but usually when I'm feeling, how I'm feeling, you know that feeling.
Speaker 3:I feel like I attract that to the bed. You know, I feel like when I feel irritable, it's almost like things happen that make me more irritable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get that. One time I was out with my mom. You know the shopping center that Little Dom's is in. We were there and if you know my mom, she's like this little you know, and I don't know what happened, but some dude started honking and giving her the finger. She stopped the car and she got out. I was like green now she's got like I'm gonna have to get to a fight to help. You know, have my mom fight. Yeah, that happened once with Issa as a baby. We went to a wedding.
Speaker 3:And he was a baby. So I pulled in. You know the what do you call it? The copper thing. So I don't even know where this guy came from, because as soon as I pulled in, he pulled up with this big truck, like the high truck, with the big tires, with all the military stuff. I'm like oh no, I'm dead. And he pulled out and he started yelling like this, like from the parking there. I'm like uh-huh. And then I see Issa in the car. He's like hmm, and then he sped off Jesus, anyway. So I'm just gonna, you know what, let me, I'm gonna, yeah, my friend will call.
Speaker 5:That's a good idea.
Speaker 3:So Stacy's been in there for a long time, yeah, In various stages of her life as well, and so that's something you know we're always talking like. She always comes in and telling me about that's some stage of her life, and things are very different in your life from when you, when I first met. So the next time we were talking, she was talking about, you know, certain things that I'm sure you'll get into. That just came to me like you know what.
Speaker 3:Maybe she would, um, she would benefit from just us, like just talking and, you know, seeing what comes out of it. Yeah, so I was kind of reflect on what it is that you kind of want to talk about. What's the topic that you feel like you want to delve deep into to like yeah. Because actually, what you're going to say is actually going to give me information as well of what it is that you think that you you know what era of your life are you looking at, because there's been various stages when we were looking at different things.
Speaker 4:So yeah, I'm kind of excited to see what you're at.
Speaker 4:It's funny because when you said that, I remember when you said it and I drew a blank because there were so many things that I thought, well, there's all the things that I could think of. Um, and then what kind of stuck with me over the past few days was this idea of your gut versus like, knowing, versus emotion and like, because I feel like that is how I've tried to decide anything that I do, but my emotions are so all over the place. I mean, you've seen it, when I come to active puncture, it's all over. It's like this how do I trust whatever it is? And also, having anxiety, I feel as though I can't trust myself because anxiety makes me believe a lot of things are real right here and now, but they're the past, predominantly informing right now. A lot of times I can't tell if it's fear or knowing that's guiding me or telling me like get out and run, or you know you're. Yeah, I guess that's it. If that makes any sense. A little.
Speaker 5:Can you elaborate on it or give an example?
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure, like the biggest thing in my life that brought me actually to active puncture when I first met Paulo was going through a divorce and like literally feeling at what I was 30 then, like my life was starting completely over, like what I was supposed to do in my 20s. That kind of started this whole path of like anxiety that I never experienced in such intensity before. I was always like a warrior. I was called nervous, nervous by my first grade teacher because I would go to class. I would like rub my hands together. I'd be so nervous.
Speaker 4:But it wasn't like anxiety, like I felt after the divorce, and so ever since then I've had this like pressure, like, oh, my life should have been this way. And it's not like grieving, having children, grieving the marriage, like what I thought I knew, like this person that I chose I would do it all over again because the person I married wasn't the person that I got divorced from. But if that rug can be pulled out from under you, nothing is certain. So now I think I base a lot of decisions on fear and every relationship since that time has really been like is this it, is it okay? Am I gonna get hurt? What you know that's kind of where it fixates in relationships, career, other things, like I feel confident, but when it gets to that it's definitely a struggle. Can I guess how old you are? Yeah, 41.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're the same age, Because everything you're saying I'm like yep.
Speaker 5:Really.
Speaker 2:I've just never been married or divorced. But yeah, I'm on the same age with everything you're saying.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh. And there's so much pressure. I feel like as a woman, I can't speak for being a man, but as a woman.
Speaker 2:Especially if you want to have children and stuff like that. No, I totally understand.
Speaker 4:And it's. I'm like why can't we catch up, Like why can't our bodies just realize, no, we're not. We may not be ready to have kids in our 20s. In fact, I go back and I'm like I was married at 24. Right, why do my parents say, nah, you got years to go. I thought it was so grown up back then. Yeah. But it was good. When it was good, everyone was.
Speaker 5:So yeah, that's me, and you just say you have children or you don't.
Speaker 4:No, working on that, but we'll see. We'll see.
Speaker 5:You know why we were talking the only thing that came up, but I don't know why. I don't know if it's it's like, so I'll just say it because I can't say anything else. They're stuck on that, you know. And what they're bringing up, especially with our anxiety, is the connection to your gut flora and some of the you know the like, the process of getting your children to work, and I think that's the. You know the like, the processing, even your thought processing, is going on and I've become across more and more articles, and you know even scientific articles, where they're starting to notice that the, the actual microbes, whether through secretion of their own chemicals, which triggers a cascade of chemicals, reaction with the new body and or even the communication that you have with your brain. So you know people are now starting to call the gut the second brain, right, and that there is, I'm really like, even from my guys of Sardines are just really showing a picture of how, depending upon what kind of gut flora you have, even your emotional state well-being is going to be highly influenced by that. And then there's more of that predominance that you've ever put any attention to, and oftentimes it happens like you're saying something happened and then all of a sudden you're feeling like going down the drain and everything is, you know, like everything is coming all together and all of a sudden anxious, and that kind of thing. And it definitely is connected to the stressor but also to then what the stress? How do you cope with the stress? And whether or not you're changing your diet or you're changing your habit, and then it kind of falls to that way. Oftentimes the biggest stressor if people really pay attention or like they start recollecting there's probably was an illness like a cold or a sore throat around the same time, and that usually is the predecessor to then, you know, the colonization of some kind of microbes that changes your flora and then it seems to appear as if it's all the same. But you know, and they give a name to that, they call it POTS and I think POTS syndrome and there is other thing. But I believe you, I'm starting to really feel like it's definitely the because of the gap floor and there is there's observation that I make even throughout my life.
Speaker 5:But there was one article that I read recently where there was a guy I don't remember where it was in the world, maybe like in England or somewhere where he had. He was suffering a crumb and to cure himself he was ingesting his mom's feces. You know to get rid of the crumb that he was working at the therapy and you know he was just to because there was stool, was called people in plant and so he was doing that and he did it for three, four years and the the byproduct of that was they felt much better. He pretty much cured his crumb, which was, you know, probably was able to do that, considering how from his pervasive and some medication not with that, but it's not a fun disease to have. But then he ended up with his mom started having started going into menopause. They started getting the postman too and they connected that you know that to his equal implants. They have such a long period of time to cure his crumb and that was that side.
Speaker 5:I was like, oh, this is just it's. You know he's a male. So I think one of the things that you know I'm not sure why they're bringing it up, but that was like the first thing that we just wanted to just lay out for you. I don't think you are not paying attention to those kind of things, but I think you may want to keep it maybe not separate from your intuition and whether or not you're able to make decision versus your anxiety and whether or not you know, in the period of time that you felt so anxious was maybe perhaps because there was an imbalance that was really at the physical level, and I don't think it was necessarily because of how everything progressed. I think sometimes we tend to put a lot of things together into how we feel, but not necessarily, you know, really kind of hone in on the problem. You know for, say for you, the, what was the? I guess I would say the first thing, the person, oh, I don't care.
Speaker 5:Curtis Curtis, how long ago, when you guys separated. Maybe yeah, 10 and a half and you haven't been able to be enough to build a relationship with someone else.
Speaker 4:I am in a relationship right now Definitely have that like panic feeling of like trust is big for me because of things with marriage. I think that we're very, very different people but I do think that, like he's been, we've evolved as a couple. I will say that, but it still is a challenge to like the deeper and you will be okay no matter what happens. But too much pressure on the relationship.
Speaker 5:What is the name of this person? Kevin, Kevin? And what do you want? What would be the perfect, you know relationship for you, or like what is it that you are, your goals that you're trying to achieve that will make you feel like you have arrived in regards to relationship.
Speaker 4:Oh, boy, when you say that, the thing that comes to mind is family like big time and I'm not saying like a trial, necessarily, but my family is like everything to me, like my nephews, they just I love everything about them.
Speaker 4:So in my ideal world I would have my family like half hour away in my own relationship, but everybody together like community. So it goes beyond like just this person. It's almost like whether I'm with a person or not. I want to be in community. That's been big, but I would love to have my little unit be so a part of like my larger unit and like their large like I just want people. I just love being around people and being a part of a family.
Speaker 5:Yeah. All right so.
Speaker 5:I think you probably need to hear first who you are in order to maybe move into what you're looking for. So you're the type of your energy field is very much into this light very like a baby blue type of color, a lot of water when I asked you for date of birth and I'm feeling there is some metal energy in there, but you also have a lot of water and you're going into a place where, in about in 2024, you're going to go, you're going to bring earth. So and this, this is relation to astrology. I don't do astrology, but this is what they're telling me.
Speaker 5:Okay, so I guess there's a shift within your, your planetary houses whatever, I don't do any of that where you're going to bring earth and earth element into your life which is going to create balance, because unfortunately water and metal corrode each other. You know like the water will corrode the metal. So even though you're looking for stability, the water washes it away and leaves that behind, rust and nothing that you can actually build on that boat. But 2024 is going to bring birth with me. So like mountains I'm looking at, not just dirt, you know, don't have that like a steady, sturdy type of thing. So even if you have water because that is part of you and you're going to have it, and even though you're more of a Leo, I guess into you, know, for your sign that you're, you're kind of dictated by the water into your son, it's represented into your, your, your wings that you have in your energy field, the earth is going to bring stability, whether it's your personal, through yourself, you're going to start seeing that everything is kind of settling down for you. It was really kind of part of your path into feeling like a little bit lost and going into like these consensical circles if you keep repeating the same thing over and over again and you just keep feeling as if you're not getting out of it. But you were just about to get out of it and you're really breaking away from that cycle. You're not going to see it again at all. So that will be down in behind you and the next part, the next part of you know, your life and the next 40 years, after the earth, you and the water, you're actually going to shift into either air and fire, like a combination together, and earth, and that's going to really show like bring out your true self into that. That's going to come, that fire, air energy is going to come into 25, 26, and that will bring in a major shift on you.
Speaker 5:I do feel that it's because of the relationships. So when you do change, also your relationships will change as well. And so for you, a lot of the things that you're experiencing have car because of your you know life path and what you've chosen. It's not like you did anything wrong. That's probably why they're going to start there. It's like you didn't take the wrong step. You didn't make the wrong decision, it was exactly how it was supposed to be. And the next half of your life you're going to experience something completely different and major shift into a different person, a different you. Now, it doesn't mean that it's going to happen from night to day, it's just a gradual, but I think you're really there already with the work that you've done and going back to your energy.
Speaker 5:So, with those of the water, it's making you feel as if the you're missing something, because water doesn't really hold on to anything. So if you put something in water, something always happens, I guess trying to be the same as an air and fire and everything. But what is the most, you know, the most thing? This is now. I love it.
Speaker 5:I personally love water, but for you it just doesn't feel like you can build anything on it. You try to build anything on top of what you can't. You know there's just very little you can do about it, and so you've had the sensation of just not being able to really just create what you've been looking for. Again, they're very much stressing that it's not because you made the wrong decisions, it's just because this was part of your life path and it was really there to help you. Then take things, not to take things for granted, because you are the type of person that otherwise would take things for granted and it would just you know, if you've had the different experiences since childhood, you would have taken that from granted.
Speaker 5:So this was to install a sense of what I do gain and want to keep, it I'm going to cherish and I'm going to honor and I'm going to really dedicate myself to. And you do have that, you have that sense of dedication to it. The other thing about your energy field is that, besides the blue, you do have some yellow dots. They really look like beautiful butterfly wings that you have in the back, and that's part of your understanding, the learning that you are gathering, the understanding you're gathering throughout your lifetime, and then how you're going to be sharing it. So you said, did you say you're a teacher Part time? Yeah, part time.
Speaker 4:Naturally, it just comes to me though.
Speaker 5:It definitely shows in there, because most people yellow always comes in when you're learning something but you're not learning.
Speaker 5:It's part of your wings. It's always in the back, so it's something that you feed off of. You're not actually learning something from us. It's otherwise. Usually it's more in the front for you. In the back and the part of the wings there are multiple dots, of different diameter and also with different colors in it. So the amount of teaching or what you're bringing you know, information you're sharing with others is of different kinds and it seems like the best thing that you do very well and it's going to be with you for the rest of your life, so you're never going to let that go. What do you do? What other things do you do outside of teaching?
Speaker 4:So full time on the career coach? Okay, and that's similar. It's like once I start to connect with people, yeah, but that's yeah, I would love to teach it seems like that's better yeah. Well, I would love to do the like curriculum and like presenting and webinars and all of that is so fun, but I'm still trying to figure that out, like how to do that with what I'm doing now, like I see small pieces of it, but I want to do it more than outside of that, like outside of work.
Speaker 4:I think one of the things that has kept me I want to say like grounded, that's not the right word, but it's been enjoyable, has been lurking out like it's huge, and I found a community at the yoga studio that I had gone to for like on and off for years. That's like very, very important. Outside of that, it's like spending time with family, traveling when I can, although money, you know, yeah but so cool.
Speaker 5:The career approach is a really good place for you to be, even though I think you will transform it into something else by 2026, meaning that I feel that you're more as an intrapreneur type of person than working for someone else. So you may just actually be able to, and because of the earth and the fire energy that is coming in for you and the, you know starting next year and you're not allowed from there that you will be able to actually find the confidence within yourself to start building up what you're. You know what you need to build up and I do feel that the entrepreneurship for you will be a nice place to go and that would also start helping you kind of converge everything. Instead of being split a little bit all throughout, you're going to start converging and having just one thing that you're going to be dedicated. There is definitely a program that you're going to be creating alongside, but more the career coach, because you also have a strong intuition and because you are the teacher that I do feel that you have material that you can actually then present to other people to help them go through. So that means like creating program classes online, whatever, and, you know, working through and that's part of you know.
Speaker 5:2025-2026 is going to come in that time and you're going to do really well with that. There's just such a big change. I think you're going to know if I see you, you know, two years under. I was like, oh yeah, that's not right.
Speaker 5:But it's coming. It is still up to you if you're willing to let go of the emotional parts and aspect of yourself, because it's been your ruler for the past 40 years. But it's kind of leaving you behind and you're already there. The thing is that the emotional aspect of you has been necessary for you to understand so that you can relate to people and all kinds of difficulties in their lives. If you didn't have that, it would be difficult for you to be a coach. I don't think it's going to be just for careers. I do feel that you're going to really relate to people in a much deeper way because there's also strong intuition that comes with water.
Speaker 5:Water is not a distracted element. It's a lubricant, really, and it carries an enormous amount of energy and one of the most powerful elements that we probably have here on earth. It also carries memories. That means that you have the knowledge.
Speaker 5:You've been applying that knowledge, whether or not you're willing to structure the knowledge into something that is slightly different than you may have thought it should be, and kind of get out of that thought it should be this and it should be that and kind of do what do I like to do? How would I like to do it. When you start using that type of dialogue within yourself of what do I like, even your relationship is going to shift a little bit and you're going to start seeing different things within your own relationship. And then that sense of community you're going to create it because you have, through your coaching, career Not because you're going to stick to a career coach, but more I feel that you're going to help people structure their lives as well. So there's going to be different elements that people are going to bring that you can help them with through that. But it really is up to you if you want to do that or not.
Speaker 4:It's funny that you say about entrepreneurship, because way back when in my 20s I actually did have like my own coaching business for I mean, it wasn't something that made much money, but I tried it and I love the entrepreneurial part of it- so it's interesting.
Speaker 5:As soon as you said that there was a big flash of light that went above you as soon as you started talking, those lights had been flashing the whole time, so you obviously are hearing where you're supposed to be hearing. I think you're a much different person than you were when you were 20 years old and you have a lot, much greater understanding. They're also saying to look at your failed marriage as a gift. A lot of people look at things that didn't work out as if that was just something that you know oh my God, what did I do? What did I do wrong? And you know we wow into that kind of thing and we self-examine and we go into the soft out and self-criticism and all that kind of thing. But you really need to look at it as a gift. That's something that I use often with people.
Speaker 5:If it's something that you're struggling with and it's still with you and it's been years that you've been struggling with it, then it's time to look at it from a different perspective. And I wanted to look at it and say that was really a blessing. Okay, really a blessing. There was many blessings within it. It didn't go how it needed to go, but it's just like, if you're making it's like making this a flay, you just never know if you're really going to end up with this a flay or just a pancake, because, you know, depending upon the oven and there's too many variants, you're just not going to know. But you know, are you not going to make this a flay? If you really like it, I just make it and then we'll see how it goes. Where did you?
Speaker 5:fail because it didn't come out the way it was.
Speaker 5:You still end up with something you can eat, but you know, it depends, you can just different, but you can still try again and then enjoy, when it doesn't have to be the right thing or what you wanted today, but you want to look at the blessing within it, so you make. You know you make peace. It's not about making peace, because I don't necessarily like that term either. I think it's usually easier and better if you find a blessing within something that we struggle to deal with because we get stuck into trying to find why it failed instead of looking at it as that but what if it didn't fail? What if this was meant to be all along? And then I can look at it as what kind of blessing was there within it? How can I make peace? My, you know it's also, I don't know, not joy, but something that I can actually benefit myself with. You know, and it really is about perception and perspective.
Speaker 4:I think that definitely there was a period in time when I felt like it was right after and I was with my family and I felt like such support, you know, like they. They love me for all the good, bad, otherwise right and I remember saying, well, I'm having the human experience, this is like I know, I'm alive because I'm mourning this. Being a mom, being married, all of it was wrapped into that. That has subsided.
Speaker 4:But what I think has felt like when you talked about like not being able to build something steady when that happened, it did literally feel like that was supposed to be my path, like that's why I get confused. It felt like it felt. I don't know it felt isn't the right word, but it just it. I just knew this was for me and then it wasn't my choosing to get divorced, but it almost felt like I switched the universe. I was in like, oh, now you're somewhere else, you're completely different, but it's strange to me. So that's why I have a hard time feeling like I can trust that knowing anymore, because that just felt so right.
Speaker 5:But were you not using the different model to structure your ideal, where you should be going with marriage and family? When you're saying, when you're talking about unity, are you talking about your family like you and what you've procreated, or your family, your parents and your siblings and everybody else?
Speaker 4:For back then. You mean For back then. Back then it was all about him and me. That was it. It was all like because I felt I felt very safe with him and that was. It wasn't necessarily healthy, because I think, you know, I haven't had this tendency to fixate on the relationship, and it became everything. But it felt like like I knew, I was like I know, I'm gonna, I just I'm certain that we're gonna get married without and you did, and we did, and it just it became something that I was like what. It just didn't make sense.
Speaker 5:So what? I and I'm sorry, I know you- want to, but I have you say something, I'm just cleaning my blood right now.
Speaker 5:I'm just going to do something. So, because when you go into that type of dialogue every time because you're going there already three times at each time I'm here it's because there is a perception and connection to how you, you, your family, growing up and how you're going to get married and what it is that you're trying to project, and you're envisioned to that, into what you thought things were supposed to go. That's interesting, yeah, so you can sit on that one, because if something is shifting already for you, so when you guys were talking, I'm just putting it through the modality of Chinese medicine or Chinese philosophy.
Speaker 3:So I was going to say, like, starting from where you and Simone were speaking before, about the guy, right, and she's talking about the. You know the mood and things being regulated by the gut. So Chinese medicine, that gut is the earth element, right, and the earth element. That's where everything starts from right. It starts from the earth, but then everything else that you're talking about, right, it's coming from this place I'm talking about. Now there's this, all this fear. Fear in Chinese medicine is the kidneys, which is the water element, and kind of just like what she said, you can't build something on the water, right. But then you, what you were saying before, like back then you said I just knew, I just knew, like I just willed it to happen.
Speaker 3:So in Chinese medicine, the spiritual aspect, all the organs are related to a different part of the spirit, and the spirit is the journey, is the will. But you're willing it to happen from that place. But if the heart isn't there, what we call the like, the Shen that connects the spirit, that connects to the bigger spirit, whatever you call it God or whatever you want to call it, then it's like Jesus said it's a house that is going to fall. It's like a house built on sand. You know what I mean. It won't stay. You know what I mean. So I think it's more just about shifting, it's not?
Speaker 5:about you doing much. It's just shifting that perception. Yeah, that's beautiful. I did not know about those.
Speaker 3:It's interesting. I mean this is coming up. You know, I'm not saying, I'm not that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm more with. Like the whole time I'm thinking like, yes, I want to see a tunnel, I want to see a tunnel.
Speaker 2:I want to see a tunnel. I want to see a tunnel.
Speaker 5:It's interesting because that mental aspect, which is what I, you know, the question that I asked before Paolo is a relation to that. What's the one? Quality about mental. What's the main quality about mental? I don't know.
Speaker 4:I think of it being shiny, I don't know. That's true.
Speaker 5:That's rigid, you can't. I mean some metals almost happen and others, but there's a rigidity to the metal and when you're talking about Chinese, when you know they were saying it's like a metal, is in relation to our rigidity of human thoughts and what we put in, and it's in relation to this perception. Oftentimes, these things you may not necessarily consciously know that you may have arrived to some conclusion as a child, depending upon how you grew up that is driving this need to have this unity. That's definitely going in there and that's creating that rigidity with the metal. Because it's preventing you. Wow, because you're shifting something right now.
Speaker 3:There you go. You can't even bring that back to the Chinese, yeah yeah, go again.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying so there's a cycle, right, and so it's like a fire, okay. Then you go fire is the mother of earth, earth is the mother of metal, metal is the earth of water, water is the mother of wood, and then there's the mother of wood, okay. So when she's saying that money's the key to shifting that back to the earth, that earth is being the family, it's like the center. From there you got that perception. They went into the metal, like this is the way it's supposed to be, and then you pull that into the will, right. Then the will goes into the wood and that's the one that we put into action. Right, we'll do it. Growth. You know what I mean? Yeah, so actually I don't think you got to start from the earth, I think you got to go back to the fire. You got to start from that part and then change the perception.
Speaker 5:But that's why it's coming. The fire is coming into earth and that will help you build the earth. Yeah, you can't do it without that and that will be more yourself. But you also don't no longer need the water, because they keep something. But you needed the water, so you need it. To be in that state for as long as you did, wow, but that's kind of leaving, you know.
Speaker 5:So, because you no longer need to have a reaction always to your emotion Because you have all the understanding and learning from it. So you're no longer reacting the way you used to. But there is this one element, this metal, that you have to let go, which is a conclusion. Think about that. But you already shifted twice because of that. So each time, I repeat it, you're leaving and going and it's more like the subconscious that is putting you know, connecting the dots and making you know sense of everything they would be doing, because we don't operate the moment.
Speaker 5:Whoever we are in this moment, we're not necessarily operating with everything that we've always been. You know, from the time that it's been constructed or construed it. So those conclusions that you may have had when you were three, four, five, six years old, you're way in the background, you know. You no longer think about that because you're not that one, but they are driving, you know, behind a lot of the things that we do. So when you're hearing things like this and the person shift is because you're leaking that connection to that very antiquated way of thinking. You don't necessarily have to really kind of say, oh yeah, that's right, you know. You don't have to actually connect it consciously because it's already happening within them.
Speaker 5:It's like that's what I love about doing this kind of work is that you know the person doesn't even realize perhaps, that something is actually really happening within themselves. I know, I feel it, so they let me know in that way. But things are going to change in shift for you already because of that and it just takes just finding the right connections and merging the right dots and that kind of things. So, having heard that, perhaps there is a conclusion, which usually conclusions that we make in our childhood is because it's another way to protect ourselves right to defend ourselves from what we think and may hurt us. So what is so important about having this family and unity? What are you really trying to get out of?
Speaker 4:it Probably security, I mean because it's funny you saying that like, oh yeah, I'm really trying to get the harmony that I didn't have back then I guess I don't know Back then when? When I was a kid, when I was a kid.
Speaker 5:Yeah, oh, yeah, to be long, yeah, and that's what you liked about the first company, because you didn't feel that you'd be long. You didn't even say that it was my home.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, very. I mean it was a very volatile situation because he was in the military, so very chaotic and constant, constant fear of because it was 2001,. You know, crazy, this deployment every other year. But when we were together it just felt comfortable. And that was like a time when I actually think about this where I'll say, wow, I was, I felt okay, even though I was like thousands of miles from my family. I felt okay with him, like I felt safe and I hadn't felt that with like I don't I'll say this to Paolo I like knock on wood, I'm like I'm afraid to say anything good about my relationship because then it'll go bad.
Speaker 4:I do that all the time, but I've had elements of it. But I also think it's like okay, this trying to find safety in myself, because I keep coming back to that, because I don't know what will happen. I want to be good with me and just keep coming back to that like breath, I guess, for lack of a better way of saying it just because that's the thing that gives me peace. So what?
Speaker 5:does safety mean to you, though? You know safety is a big word, just like love. I want to feel love. It's like, well, that doesn't mean anything. It's too general, same with safety, way too general. So what is really behind this? What do you use?
Speaker 4:Guarantees that things won't go wrong. No, no, no. It feels to me like it's just this you were dead, just like Paolo. Do they ever reputation? No Subaru's.
Speaker 2:No, my parents had a. Volvo when we started driving. They would only let us drive. That's my dad was always like.
Speaker 4:it has a little freak, I can never I can't convert from us to be rude, but yeah, I don't know. That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 5:I don't want anything bad to happen, so I want you to think about, when you were first with her, how you felt. What did he do to make you feel that way? He listened to me Exactly In which way? What do you mean? Because it's different way you listen.
Speaker 4:He let me just talk and talk and talk, because I like to talk and would genuinely like it was like active listening. He would ask questions and paid attention to what.
Speaker 5:I was saying what was he actually doing? He was donating you and verbalizing that. So we went from using security and harmony they said love, attention and to belong, which is then hurt to be seen but more communication, verbalize and understand. You need to feel that someone is actually leading you and the only way that you feel safe and loved If someone verbalizes back who you are through their active listening, that's your safety. That's how you felt at home with him. Then he did it for a little bit, but because you gave him that job, then he becomes a burden.
Speaker 5:And then they start asking out because they don't want to be that person all the time, because it's like I do it for now, but I can't be doing it all the time, and then things start going in different ways.
Speaker 4:But that's what you're looking for. When you said validation, I was like bingo, Because my love language has been words of affirmation and sometimes I look at that and go I don't know if that's necessarily what. It's not exactly that you need to hear to use very important.
Speaker 5:The word that really shifted the beast, that made it kind of highlighted, is that you associate belonging to a community, to a family With someone verbalizing back that you are, that are validating you, so verbalizing back that you're seeing and you're heard and you're acknowledged and that's how you feel, how you feel what you need. But that's missing, because now, at this time, you need to start doing it for yourself. You can't be looking at it outside of yourself. So when you say before I need to build this for myself, yes, you do, but you need to also know what it is that you need to build and you need to start from there.
Speaker 5:So, how often do you validate yourself on a daily basis? Probably zero. Probably because, instead of looking for validation, you're looking for what you did wrong. You have to avoid making mistakes, but what did you say? You're looking for guarantees that nothing goes wrong.
Speaker 4:And it is about mistakes. I'm always afraid of making a mistake or being punished. You're the one that throws the rug underneath from you.
Speaker 5:That's fair On a daily basis.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's fair, yeah, so can we stop that?
Speaker 5:Yes, we can Thank you. So can you give me a couple of examples?
Speaker 4:I don't have a question.
Speaker 3:I guess just not specifically for you, for everybody. So this one's specific for you? Do you feel of what she said about how you were, he was making you feel heard? Yeah, do you feel that because of that in your current relationship, do you?
Speaker 4:feel like you're always trying to get that out of your current partner. Yes, and then if you don't get it, does it start trouble? I think recently I've gotten better about laughing about it, like just being like ex almost. What do you mean laughing about it?
Speaker 3:Laughing. When you feel like you're not getting it, you're laughing about it.
Speaker 5:I'm not getting what I need Like it's, you're not getting what you want.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like accepting, like that, because it's not given to me in the way I expect it, that it doesn't mean that I'm not heard in a different way, like I don't.
Speaker 5:And that's good. That's a good thought process. Now it's definitely on the path of healing. Yeah, because it is in their job, right, and the same is in anything that he needs. It's not necessarily your job to fulfill that emotional component. Okay, I think a lot of people, yeah, in that state. Of course it feels good. It's not that you see it because you're taking care of it. But if it becomes a burden on the other person, it can be an exchange, a partnership, where we can do it for the other person. But you should not be depending your well-being on someone providing that for you. That's okay, and not only that. But people measure how much I'm loved by how much you provide that, and that always creates then this core, then that lock in communication and then, just, you know, people get into these discussion for that. So, yeah, you're going to make that fire come so much earlier already, see, so that's good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's very good yeah.
Speaker 5:So I want you to give me an example of how you can validate yourself on a daily basis.
Speaker 4:I don't know if this is validation, but I used to do like a journal of five things that are right with me, instead of like, because I'm constantly like the ever. This is why I think I'm great, a great career coach, because I can see the potential, you know.
Speaker 4:But instead of accepting, as it is like oh it's, you're good as you are, or even just appreciation that we talked about, because that actually helps me a lot to not To refocus from the lack, because I'm again always looking at that thing that's missing and what could be.
Speaker 5:But that's just shifting a jar of emptiness from another place. The same jar of emptiness, I mean to fill that jar. Okay, so how can we fill that jar? Meaning, what can you say to yourself that actually nourishes you so that you can stuff yourself? Not good enough? Not good enough, that's true. People like me, that's exactly it.
Speaker 3:Actually, you know, it's interesting because Issa my son, has a test tomorrow on the different types of energy and they're talking about, like you know, motion energy, gravitational energy. But I love that and, yes, that's right. The one thing was he was talking about potential and I never, like you know, they say that you got potential. You know, I never really thought about what potential the definition is, but it's energy that's not moved yet.
Speaker 3:Right, it's just there and there's potential. It's just there and then kinetic energy is like when it's moving. So I feel like when you're doing those affirmations, it's just telling yourself, okay, there's potential there, but then how do you get that potential and actually move it? Like, how do you get the thing and put it in the socket, right, you know what I mean, right, and when I was asking myself, when you guys were just talking, I was like, well, how would I, what would I do? Right, do that? I feel myself, as I know, when something is happening, when I get a feeling in my whole body, right, and I feel like, how would I do that? Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I mean, I don't know, I just feel myself with something I used to do and maybe I should do more of it.
Speaker 3:I used to stare at myself in the mirror all the time. I just stared at myself and stared at myself and stared at myself and I'll be honest with you, most of my life doing that, I only saw negative things always. And then one day, by accident, I took a shower and I get out, I'm trying myself off and I'm walking a wet out of the shoe bed. I mean there's a little bedroom and from the corner of my eye I saw myself and I stopped and I came back and I just sat there and looked at myself and that feeling came. I'm like you know, I like this fucking guy, like that. It was almost like a third person, like I really really love this guy actually. And then after that I started doing this practice, while I would just stare at myself in the eyes and till I got that feeling of love for what I'm seeing. And I'm not saying that you have to do exactly that, but I feel like that. The feeling that I got was connected.
Speaker 3:Yeah Right, it wasn't just it was like I saw the potential and then it yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:So I'm gonna that's beautiful yeah yeah, I'm just, I love that. I don't think that's gonna sympathy, because it's not. You need the words, you need that validation and I want you to think about. Think about that when Curtis how he used to relate with you in the beginning and what he did specifically, and how you can do that to yourself and use the same thing that he did, and you just feel really good, oh, yep, got it Like I, just I don't journal this.
Speaker 4:I've gotten that message time and time and time again about journaling and I don't do it. But I tend to find that, like when I hear things over and over, it's that's how I kind of get the message. Yeah, and I don't do it because it feels like it feels overwhelmed, because I do have these big emotions and then it's exhausting. But that would be me listening to me, I think.
Speaker 5:You could do that and you can try. And while you're journaling, talking to you as if you're her person, have you comfort yourself in ways that you can validate? Okay, and that's how it would do it that way, because if you do it just to list your problem, it's not going to go anywhere. You really need to start having conversations with yourself. Yeah, to give that comfort and reassurance, the way you are creating to get it. Yeah, and don't look at other people to get it from. And just if you feel that you catch yourself that you need it, that's the moment you need to go. And you know you can look at the way. Or, if you want to, but you need to go and have a conversation with yourself and say I have not been giving validation to myself. That's a nourishment.
Speaker 5:You need to do that on a daily basis and if you don't, you can also add at the end of the day that you ask yourself did I do side of it myself enough to do the day? Okay? So what it means is that, more than journaling, because anything that we do by force, it's not then probably the right tool. So if you don't feel comfort, I'm going to use it, or then you're not going to use it. Okay, you know if it's a chore, if it's a chore you're never going to do it. So it has to be something that you know you're going to be able to do it. Okay.
Speaker 5:And I think, because you are so aware of your self-criticism yeah, that's when you need to validate. You hear that voice. You're going to come in. You know, create like a third person of you, someone that is like defying you to say bitch, we're no longer talking to us like that, you know, like step out of it. Yeah, that's what you say yeah and it's like nope, that's not true. Not true, that's not at all what's happening. That's not out of it. Whatever you want, to bring that fire in, because you have it.
Speaker 5:You don't have any kind of information. You just need to stop yourself from having these conversations, stop the dialogue, because it's nonsense. It hasn't led you to anything, so why not do something like that? Yeah, that's how you validate it. Yeah, in this time, okay, and you can also be gentle alone if you want to, but I think it's important that we have a fire, and it's always better.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think that's. You remember it. Yeah, because it's yeah, that's yeah, Snap out of it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes I try to you go, it's good that you work online, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't want to be walking around with your fridge.
Speaker 5:That's not the wrong way to do it. One of the things you can do find like a charm Okay, is it in that place of bracelet, or something in your keys or something to you. I fidget a lot, so something that you can act on your hands often, okay. Whatever it is, and I started the job if you find it with like the sentence that you can create it for yourself. You can make all kinds of things on your mind.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you can have it for yourself, or you say you spit on it, you can have it Okay. I love it, yeah, and then every time, you, you know you find it, you look at it and it's like okay, yeah, that's exactly what I need to do. That will be enough reminder for you that you'll be able to do it every day, and so find a way to bring it with you so that you can have it on your mind. Yeah, you get like a gold you go without updates.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh, maybe a conversation started. I'm sure.
Speaker 3:But it's funny about it Because I do have to say like see that we're laughing about it, but that I feel it comes with more feeling than being like I'm going to write in a journal.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Like there comes a thing like I know because one it's really silly, it's all right, like it's not something that you typically would do. So you have that and you see it. Yeah, and then you're like you might even laugh to yourself. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually I like that and it's empowering.
Speaker 5:It's empowering.
Speaker 3:And it's a.
Speaker 5:We can never try to replace, get rid of something without replacing it with something of the same, along the same line, with the same power and same energy, so that, because we can remove it, it will be temporary, but that space will remain empty, okay, and then that little pattern will start sneaking in slowly but surely. Okay. So you have to make something, create something impactful that replaces exactly that of which, almost to the opposite of what you usually have. It's not often an easiest thing to do. It's easy for me, from being the outside.
Speaker 5:Sure, I'm going to say, hey, I'm going to tell you a little bit, but anyway, but I think some of the mistakes we oftentimes do is that we try to get rid of something without replacing that of which and fulfilling that empty mistake that you're on Right, but you're doing great. You did fantastic. Thank you for the changes.
Speaker 4:That's awesome Because, like I've had many conversations with Talos about why am I stuck here. I know I've said to you so many times I'm so sick of my story, I'm so sick of being there, but like I felt like I couldn't. I knew all the things, but my body did not believe the things I knew, logically, and I just, yeah, I'm like why can't I get it, why can't they just get it?
Speaker 4:I'm just trying to understand. Yeah, like I can intellectualize everything Right, like I can talk about my feelings, I can whatever. But I felt the trauma, the emotions, everything. It was just so visceral that, like I could, they were disconnected and I could still feel it as I talk about it.
Speaker 3:Because Is it? Your body is reacting, even though like, yes, yeah, like my head is here, it's seeing everything through present.
Speaker 4:The body is like way back and it's like having this reaction, and so it takes me like, okay, what is really happening? And then trying to convince my body, your feeling that is, that is that what's really happening here. But it's like no, it is, it is. It feels so scary, like literally terror in my body.
Speaker 5:It feels like and as I talk about it, I can feel it, but yeah, that's because when people are struggling with stuff like that, it's because it's always the conflicting. But we sit and so there's you, as you are right now, and that emotional eruption that you feel coming in, that you have to fight down and you're in the child. The special in the child is carrying the pain of what you've forgotten and is trying to remind you we still haven't dealt with it. And we talked about ego a couple times already, you know, and it's that language, it's the only language that they know. It's just trying to remind you that they don't feel safe. You may feel safe right now, and then that creates to complete opposite yeah, yeah, and I can't. And when that rushes in, it's so powerful because they haven't, and it's always.
Speaker 5:It's simply the most interesting thing. It's always the case that we in the child never get their voice heard. Because what do we do? I need to, yeah, I need to fight with it. I'm not comfortable with this feeling. I'm going to try and I need to rush through it and not feel it anymore, not myself or whatever. And then the next time it comes back even stronger. Yeah, and it always comes around when we already already have the tools to actually fix it. Yeah, but we're not. It's so hard to make, to merge the two, to understand that this is actually by a child talking to you right now and telling you that there is something that I need to care of. And I'm just not making the connection because I'm here, I'm a different person that this emotion is coming up.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's also this one ethic and it's I think it's one of the ways to feel lost completely. Yeah, you know, and it's the golden ring Like, even for myself. I remember many times being there and I still do occasionally. Oh my god, why is this happening? And I'm like, oh okay, wait, I gotta do the work, you know.
Speaker 4:So in those moments, I know we have to like bitch, step out of it, but also the like to give that space. I guess what could that look like? You know, that's the thing that I've struggled with. I think it's bitching that out of it. You know, hitting yourself, hitting myself. I was like wait, what Did I? Hear that right Like like. Is this a metaphor?
Speaker 3:Yeah, no I mean, I think that's a good question.
Speaker 5:So what you do, then it's like you need to listen, you need to give the time. So if you're home on your own, so let's say you do your. You know your snap in yourself out of it, but then the emotion is for you there. I feel that that's when you want to do the journey, if there's something a little more, and then you do the journey with the marrying all you know, keeping in mind that the main reason now that you're working through for probably the past couple months, the next few months, is going to be whether or not, if I'm my triggers, what are my triggers? And my triggers are always going to be when I don't feel seen, heard, through validation and communication. And so you can phone in and figure out, you know, and slowly, slowly but surely, you'll be able to retrace your steps and see what instance cause going to be triggered whether it was someone saying something to you in a certain way or not saying something, not responding and it will show you what you're keeping track of. You know how much you're monitoring your environment to get feedback, to prevent yourself from getting hurt, because you know, like you said, I'm really good at noticing everything he's like. Of course you are. It's it. It's a trauma mechanism, you know. But I feel that in that moment for you, journaling then we'll be useful into helping you addressing where is this coming from, because you have the information and it's likely that once you're done with this, you're going to start seeing other things are going to come up.
Speaker 5:But usually you start from the trigger and if you don't know what your triggers are, you every time you get upset about something. That's a trigger. Yeah, and you need to identify that trigger and that by identifying the trigger, I'm really going deep and not stopping it. I felt sad, but what do you mean? Anything? What did I really feel? Yeah, that's pretty hard, you know, and for you, you talked about safety the entire time and so I said it's not safety. What else is there? I mean what? Should you go further?
Speaker 5:And I think that's also another mistake we often do Just don't go far in enough to really address how we actually feel. Yeah, and that's difficult, you know. I don't know if you would. You work out or do you deal with people. You probably see the same thing when you try to talk to or trying to get someone to really elaborate on their emotions.
Speaker 3:Sometimes I think it's hard for someone you know, I think for myself it's the most rewarding part of the work and it's also the most challenging, because sometimes you can sit, like for myself as a practitioner, I can see it Right, but there's nothing I can do about it, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean I tend, in the sense of what I'm- doing with my treatments.
Speaker 3:For some times I just feel like they're just stuck, yeah, and I think usually I'm okay with it, right? I think what I'm finding is, when I'm seeing people that are stuck, when I'm feeling stuck, I attribute yeah, oh, wow, yeah, I attribute, I can understand.
Speaker 4:I mean, I think it's like it reminds me of with students, you know, wanting it more, like seeing the potential, as we talked about right, and knowing they can do more, but then it's that person has to want, it has to. That's the closest thing that I have?
Speaker 5:Yeah, you're hot, I'm boiling. Oh no, it's the energy work and it's all it, is it just?
Speaker 2:makes me very hot. It's the team.
Speaker 3:It's going to cool. It is yeah, you are over.
Speaker 5:What are you doing? Sure, yeah. So that used to happen a lot more for me through in the beginning when I went through the process of understanding how to navigate through the, the labyrinth of emotion that's really how I call it and it always happened where something would happen to me and then I will process through and then I will get a client that has the same issues and I would get to you know, explore and I think I think that's a known fact he would.
Speaker 5:usually we get to often I would get to hear we start talking about something that it's also useful for us. So you know how are you feeling.
Speaker 4:I felt so many things over the past whatever however much time it's, I feel there's like a little bit of nervousness and then also like calm. So it's interesting. That's something that I've been challenged by is like feeling these very conflicting things at once because I always want to feel good.
Speaker 4:So trying to get comfortable with that. But for the most part, the majority of me gesturing where I feel it is very like I don't have a word for it. How about I say absence of bad emotion, uncomfortable emotion which feels very nice, it feels very secure, it? Really does. Like. This is the part that when I say about breath that I feel safe, like it's just I don't know what it is sometimes, or I'm just like okay, I don't know.
Speaker 5:You know what it is. It's taking a power back. That's what this is, unfortunately, when we let our inner children, we let them act out yeah, because we're not really listening to them or the things that we need to do for them. Yeah, we need control, and so when you back into your own self. It's like you feel this is how it feels to have your own power. Your own power, yeah.
Speaker 4:You feel good. So, as a well adjusted adult, should your emotions be like? Is it always your inner child? If it's a strong emotion, no, not necessarily I have strong emotions.
Speaker 5:You get angry, be angry. You get mad at something, please be mad at something. Yeah, it's. If it lingers that it's not so good. Okay, it's okay to feel emotions. We're not supposed to be completely like oh, that's not realistic.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but it's perfect to feel all of it. You know a whole variety of emotions, there's so many of them. Just don't let it ruin your life, okay, if it's ruining you and what I mean to ruin you is that you will come the next day and you're still thinking about what happened, yeah, and then throughout the whole day you're still thinking about what happened, and then the next day you're still thinking about what happened. That's ruining you. You're not. You don't have the power in that. You're giving the power away, yeah, to whatever that situation is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, A lot of what you said and what's come up has just been so fascinating Something you said.
Speaker 4:It took me back to back when I was 20, whatever, and something I was at like a metaphysical fair, and somebody who was there came up to me and I don't remember exactly what her table was, but I don't think I was getting a reading or anything. But she said you don't eat right for your energy. And that has stuck with me because I was like, what is she talking about? Like I don't, it's just. It stayed with me and I keep hearing this thing about, like the gut. I'm thinking, okay, I gotta listen to this. There's just so many things you've said that's just one example of just interesting things that actually, like it really excites me to make the change I think I have to commit to it, like to myself, because that's the one thing that I don't do, and I think in the process, that's where you're gonna then drill out the structure you are, you know your entrepreneurship into coaching, I think you're gonna find so much result from nice within yourself.
Speaker 5:Yeah. And the thing is that it's actually become so much easier after this. It's like I can already say oh my god, this is actually easy. Oh my god, oh my god, I can do it. And it comes to a great and that was kind of fault at everything else. But, when it comes down to food, you're already eating. Fine, there's nothing wrong with it. Really there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 4:It's what I'm surprised to hear that, because I love my sugar.
Speaker 5:It's okay, you know they're not saying that you need to eliminate or do less or whatever. I'm doing. Okay with that. Okay, you can celebrate like that if you're like, don't be. Like, I'm overshadowing it's more about. I believe that I mentioned that because if it's okay for you to notice if foods after you eliminate, you're taking care of the emotional aspect, if there's any foods that actually triggers you to go more deeper into it, and I think that's for you to notice.
Speaker 5:I am not from any school Gotcha it's because I don't feel that it's, I'm not saying anything in that regard. It was more to let you know that a lot of your emotions that you felt that were taking over you even in the past, especially in your 20s, was a lot of it. 50% of it had to do with your microbiology. Okay.
Speaker 5:So that and even your perception of things. But they changed its how we feel. Yeah, when your focus into thinking all was mostly correlated to you thinking you're not something wrong, so they mentioned that for that reason because a lot of it was in connection to how we were then. You're not that person anymore, so you're different. There's a different up and down floor right now from what you're doing in the past.
Speaker 4:Gotcha Okay, so bring on the sugar. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm teasing.
Speaker 5:So who? No, no, no, I'm not gonna be going.
Speaker 4:No, I actually have cut back on my sugar, but yeah, I think you know, I think you're right. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of really good. Yeah, it's just exciting. Really really interesting stuff, thank you, got so much out of that. You must be exhausted. I am not, really. I would be so exhausted Really Actually you were easy for her.
Speaker 5:Really, it was because she is not resisting.
Speaker 5:There's no resistance there, I know, I know she's very accepting. There is, there's not. You were actually eager and you were closer to a point of change than other people when they come to me and much further from a point of change. And usually, and there is the willingness, people have to have the willingness. The one way to change there's not, that it's just not going to happen. And then they come in really hard. You know they come in with like different attitudes and sometimes I feel like a jack home hide. I've heard, I fear myself. They changed the way I talked to people to change my like tenality. You know all that stuff. Sometimes I tell them don't you get a finger of a girl class, even the occasion, even the occasion.
Speaker 2:Imagine for Samona when she this was years ago my aunt had a party when you were going like to homes and there was like 10 or 12 family, maybe 15. I just I think I was like kind of in the middle of the group, but like towards the end Samona came out and like this lady looks like she's about to. I don't even know she's going to want to do this work after this.
Speaker 5:It's actually within the time that you're doing the energy work, it doesn't. You don't feel anything Like everything. I'm like. I'm like my best right now. You know, it's like because it's them. It's them that's in this area. You feel with them being pregnant, and then they leave and it's like, oh God, I know, you walked out.
Speaker 2:I was like I want something to try. I remember that, oh my God, I'm 41. I think I was like, maybe like 10 years ago, yeah.
Speaker 5:Sure, I was a while ago, no before that?
Speaker 3:No, I know. I don't even think I was married.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it was after, it was after that. I know it was 30 because I remember specifically. I had really bad vertigo and I asked Simone about it.
Speaker 5:I didn't start this until 2012, 2013. So, and I probably didn't start going to people's houses until after a year, I started doing it, it was like 10 years ago. Yeah, that's. I don't do that as much I should. I have a week, I know. No, I don't. No, it's, it's, it's okay. It was, it was nice.
Speaker 5:I learned so much to rough up the process On the bench, just dealing it. It was this one time they changed my brain. What did they do? Let me remember for a second. They went in and they augmented the ability to actually use both sides of the brain. While you know, I guess it was for future channeling and you know, to do session and to allow them to come in and talk through you.
Speaker 5:And they said you're going to feel some pain. It's going to be quite intense and it's going to last for almost an hour. You know, let us know if you don't. It was the most piercing pain because it can take a little more. I can't, I can't. You gotta stop, you gotta. You know it can be so they eat it out. Was it like pain in your head? Oh, it was pain on my head. It was right at the top of the here, wow, right at the top, I guess with the brain it was great. Afterwards it was fine, you know. It just lasted what it was here, it's on this side, and then we were done.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they do come to think oh, do you believe that every person has like access to that intuitive side of themselves, or just that the guides? I've heard some people say that they think everybody has some degree of it.
Speaker 5:We all do.
Speaker 4:Yeah, really.
Speaker 5:We all do. We all have intuition. We all can't practically communicate with other, with other beings, and we all have guides, the extent of which you can or perceive it or are in touch with or are aware of is different than other people, some people that want anything to do with it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and so then we know they don't. Others may want it many badly, but they have other things they're not working on, and so it's kind of always evading them. Yeah, and there are those who always had it and Is that what happened with you?
Speaker 4:You just kind of yeah, I always had it. Yeah, I do not.
Speaker 5:You are very intuitive.
Speaker 4:But I don't have that. I love and am so fascinated by those who have the ability. I think you both have this amazing sense about people and I don't know what you call it, but all the things, intuition, and I'm like, wow, that's so amazing. And I, yeah, like you sing lights. You were saying and I don't see that.
Speaker 3:I mean I'm not doing what she's doing. Yeah, just to say. But I also think I think anybody can do something. And I also think, like you know, my wife she never even talks about this stuff, but she does talk about, I mean, she's a therapist and she talks about and even Maggie was saying that I think that time that she was here that's also a therapist and sometimes she's there talking to a client and then afterwards like what was that, like who was that talking through?
Speaker 3:Because, like you, know, like it's almost like something came out and they say I don't know what I said, but I said exactly what was supposed to be said, or that. I'm sure every therapist that's been practicing for a while gets that. And for myself, you see how, like I'm touching the pulses and I see things. I think it's just because we have the privilege of just being Like it's different when there's a bunch of different energies, but when you're just one on one with a person in a room, right and so on, they're like you know your own energy.
Speaker 3:So when I'm picking something up and I feel like I know this isn't mine, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah. And then you know like, okay, I'm not. I mean, at least I'm just talking to my own thing and I just feel like I'm not doing nothing special. I feel like everyone can do that. It's just more about like you know, I feel like if you're around the basketball court all the time, eventually you're going to pick up a few things. And I think it's the same thing if you're alone with the perfect people all the time, yeah, and you're being intimate with them.
Speaker 3:Like I go in, I'm in the room with you, we talk about very deep things, and then I go to another room and I do the same thing. I do it every day, every day, every day. You start to pick it up, and I think it's harder when I'm around a lot of people and then I get the feeling of a certain way, because sometimes I don't notice that, like what happened, like you know what I mean, like is this me feeling it or is this someone else? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5:Yeah, but when it's just one-on-one, you feel it right away, yeah, but you also open, willing to do it, you know, and you also have a near-death experience which, yeah, I mean Frequency-wise it puts you a lot closer to that world. It really does. And when you said, oftentimes I think about, you know, there's a lot of psychologists not therapists, but more psychiatrists and psychologists, maybe even psychiatrists From being in the medical field, you see it, they're completely shut down. All they see is the books and the words that they learn, whatever they were told in school, and they look at the person in that way. And no matter how many times they have a one-to-one with people, they'll never be open to perceive things in that way, to allow different thoughts, both diable or information, to come through, you know. So I do believe I understand what you're saying and I agree with you in that sense, but I think there has to be a willingness to be open to anyone. No, no, I agree with you.
Speaker 3:And in fact even you know, with what you're saying about, like having you that experience and all of that, I do find sometimes that I get so wrapped up in the world of reality, in the world of reality of Chinese medicine, that I can close myself off because I'm too busy. I need to find a pattern, I need to find the pattern. I need to find the pattern. That happens to me a lot, actually, because I want to be a good practitioner. Yeah, you know what I mean. But what, that being said, is then when I step back from that, you know what I do. A lot I actually talk about near-death experiences.
Speaker 3:I go to work and before work I walk around town and I listen to near-death experiences in my headphones. You know what I mean. Like, I listen to people there's so many on YouTube, yeah, and I just listen to them because they speak about things and things that weren't even near-death experience more than has to do with that Ouija board experience that they're so similar Some of them, when they're speaking, they're so similar that it brings me into that place. It's almost like listening to Anya for me. I listen to it and when they speak, it does it feels like, oh, I feel like I missed that place. It really does feel like that, yeah, but when I go there, I feel like I carry that. It's weird. It's like you walk into the office and you don't feel well, yeah, you know what I mean. You feel like you're suffering, you're expanded.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 3:So again, she was talking about doing something like the necklace and the chenarine. This is something totally different. But what I'm trying to say is that finding something that just works for you yeah, you know what I mean. That's something my teacher used to say. I did this Chinese shamanism with my teacher for it was about a year, a little over a year, and he would teach all these things. He would always say after every other shamanism but find your own way. He always said that Always Find your own way. Find what works for you. Yeah, and the funny thing is that I would give up what worked for me because I felt like I needed to do what I was taught, and that has been a huge thing in my life of learning to be like. Why do I keep trying to follow what other people are telling?
Speaker 3:me when I was already doing it Exactly. You know what I mean. All right, I'm even today you know I'm a little off of a tangent, but today I just go to that woman, this Sufi woman, and yeah, there is a. We do have some type of connection. I don't know what it is yet I know it's because of this. She came, because of the Sufi master Balamuni being and I don't understand my relationship with him because he's dead, but I dreamt about him and all these things that happened.
Speaker 3:But and then when we talk, I can feel this resonance and when we're speaking, I'm always trying to draw out well, how do you practice, how do you? And then she starts to talk and I'm trying to draw these things out of her and I'm always hoping I'm going to get some pearl. You know what I mean. And then I never do, and I've been doing that for years I'm trying to get this pearl. It never comes. You know what I mean. It's just like when are you just going to give up? And just like, just fucking leave me there. You know what I mean. I don't even know what that is, and that's what I'm saying in relation to what you're saying about. Like it's there already.
Speaker 3:I feel like when you're talking with her, I feel like there was no resistance, because I feel like what you were hearing is like stuff you kind of all know. Yeah, right, it's just, how do I get there? And sometimes I think it's nice because I think you're, simone, you're very talented. I'm kind of like outlined in the path in a way. That makes it go like, ah, okay, I can walk this. It doesn't look scary anymore. You have that talent to do that. And then you all you need to be like, yeah, I'm going to walk it now, right, you know what I mean. And then just finding the walking stick or whatever it is you want to do. You want to wear boots, you want to walk the stick you want to, and then just find out which one is good for you on the, on the, on the trail, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:I think I love. I love when you talk, I absolutely love when you talk.
Speaker 2:I can just go to it. I'm not trying to insult you.
Speaker 5:It's just, it's such a nice loving energy behind it and there's such a care and attention no-transcript. Just like in a car.
Speaker 2:You know I've got a lot of flashcards for the family.
Speaker 5:But one of the things I just found and I definitely, like I believe in the community much in alignment, you know, also with my belief on the ministry of peace being better and more go with the belief system and I just when I hear you then saying things like that, it's like you. You know, you talk often about teachers and I appreciate the fact that you want to be informed and you know having different information and it's never wrong to hear that. The funny thing is, when I started with my guides, working with my guides, that even though I've always had my abilities and I was very intuitive and I saw everything, I didn't have the guidance. You know, I didn't have an actual guide that told me. You know, we're going to do this now, we're going to work on this and we're going to do that and the other. But the one thing that they did is like we don't want you to read any books. We don't want you. If I wanted to go to do like an event where I listen to someone talking about anything you know, any type of religion or any type of thing no, you're not reading any books and not doing anything like that. We're going to show you what you need to know and it's more. It helps me in a sense where I'm not attaching to actually feeling that I have to know in order to guarantee that I'm doing the right job, or to you know, not saying that that's what you're doing, but that's for myself. It's where I'm really kind of taking the ride. Whatever I'm working with, we're just going on the ride. I don't know where we're going. I don't know where they're going to show. I feel that you know, when we went into the metal, water, earth thing with you, stephanie, I didn't know why we were mentioning that Oftentimes they tell me things, they don't. They show me where to put my hands and I'm sure that you know I'm doing like with physiology, touching points or something like that. I don't know what it is and I don't need to know. I'm being shown what I need to do. But the beauty about that is that I take myself out of it from being the one in control of deciding what I need to do. There's none of that. It's just really kind of telling me if I do this now, do that now, if I just go here, I'm going to go there, and I experienced that even when I became.
Speaker 5:I learned to do pottery on my own for a period of time. I didn't go to school for that. I used some books, I used some Google stuff. You know I learned how to do that and I was doing great at it. I loved it, absolutely loved it. The beauty about it is that I made mistakes that probably led to some beautiful stuff that other people who went to school and got the knowledge of exactly how you're supposed to do they would say oh, you never do that or you never put the student through. For me it was more like ooh, let me see, if I do this, what happens. Oh, let me see if.
Speaker 5:I do this. What happens so the same is with how I approach the path to this understanding and spirituality is oh, let me see, I go here. What happens, as long as it was okay with them and it helped me into not going by a script and not getting caught into oh, we're going to do this because this is what we do. I have this method. You know, it's actually just about how you're depending upon who it is, there is a common commonalities in between it. So I think, for you too, I think it's part of your quest, of your being to know as much as possible, to be informed. But I think what you're looking for, it's already that thoroughly looking for, it's already the thing you yeah, it is.
Speaker 5:And there's more there than you can ever find from anybody else. And that's what I came to the understanding to the when I did after that fear the time that it kept me away from everybody, that there's very little that I can, that I need to know from someone else that I don't already know. You know, I mean that I can't exit the already on my own, that kind of thing. I'm not saying this from a point of grandiose or anything like that, it's just really a piece of mind. You know it's like it's okay, you're fine, you're good. You know you need to and I don't know what it can do for you to know that, but I feel that you already have everything that you have. No, I agree, I think you know, when I think about what you know, type of what, when you're stuck in a city, you're in Korea, so you're like helping people.
Speaker 4:I don't know exactly what that means. Career coaching, like you help people find a job that's for them. I'll tell you a lot of it is helping people with their resume. But the true way that a lot of coaches work, it's like the path, it's more of like the facilitator asking the right questions for people to come up with their answers, and that's what I was trained in. But I will say, practically speaking, what I do on a day to day in the first place, but you're helping people you know get jobs.
Speaker 3:So you're, you work in service, yeah, right, and I found with myself is being in being in service. When I'm doing work, but doing something, even like this, I just sit down thinking that Stacey's going to come here, she's going to walk out and she's going to get something out of it and it gives me energy. I feel like it's. I think there's something about when, when I'm out of the way, I feel fucking great, you know. I mean, like I don't even want to say great, I just I'm just flowing. But then, when it comes to the self, I find it very hard and not to say I'm not at peace with myself. It's just like it's easy to get in the head Okay, now I got to start doing this, I got to go do this, I should find out about this and I, especially with the internet, I will Google all that, Like I Google every type of spiritual practice on Sufism to you know, see, whatever they're called, jainism, and you know every type of Christianity, like, because I'm always thinking about what's what?
Speaker 3:If there's a practice out there, that is the best one for me, right, and it's, even if. Even if I think I was like something like Indian, I would probably still do it anyway because I enjoy it, like I enjoy just that realm. But there is that thing of like, when you enjoy the realm and then it becomes, it starts to get in the way. You know what I mean and I think that's where that's. For me it's always been that struggle of like I get a little bit out of balance with it and then, second pair, I got to come back and then I get a little bit out of balance and I come back and like, speaking with this lady, something that she said and something I said to her, a lot of the things that she kept on saying when we were talking about you know what she does and her practice. She was always saying, like you know, I just always remember when I was in that cave with that teacher, like she kept going back to these things where she would remember things.
Speaker 3:And I liked that because I was like, oh, her practice, like her true practice besides doing zikr and all this stuff is remembering, she would remember things that bring that feeling with her, that brings her in that state of grace. And I was like, oh, that's beautiful because I do that. But that gave me a reason to like I should do that more often. You know what I mean. I should do that more often, like, bring that back. If you ever felt that state of grace, or whatever word you want to call it, then go back to it because that means it's in your system. The same way that your body remembers that anxiety feeling, that also means it has that feeling in it. It's just we don't get to practice. And then, and then my thing is like I'm not a disciplined person, I like to just go with the flow and I'm like I'm doing this right now. Today I gave myself the privilege of doing everything I did. They're all like you know I'm gonna play Spider-Man, so I dressed up as Spider-Man on Juggernaut. I would play PlayStation on the Spider-Man game with Isa. But I don't like playing with Isa. And today I was like I'm gonna chill out and play Spider-Man and it did for me be like whatever half an hour or so, but it just felt good. You know what I mean. And I felt like that was more, had more profound effect on me than if I sat there on meditation and I meditated. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:And I did guess the thing, because before I would always go no, no, no, what do you do? You need to sit down and meditate. You need to sit down and meditate and I think, like when does the practice get in my way? And something this lady, when I asked this woman, I said you sit down and do you have a certain kind of dating? You sit down and you pray and meditate, or? And she just said I do it unceasingly, I'm just always doing it. I'm always making sure I remember, I remember God at all times. I remember God at all times. And that was like an arrow right through me Because it's so easy. I mean St Paul says that in the Bible and it's something I always forget about and that sounds like that's kind of your going to be your practice.
Speaker 3:Instead of remembering God in that way, it's maybe remembering that God within yourself like your work thing or everything else. And remembering that all the time.
Speaker 2:I mean, is that a little cross for right now?
Speaker 5:I think at least I'm on the belief and I did my life that way. I don't do whatever it is that feels right in the moment and it means that that means it's going to change all the time. I, when I first started not the day told me sometimes they did tell me, you know, I meditate. I'm going to try, I'm going to sit and meditate for two minutes. That's the most that I can do. I'm not. I didn't look at it as a fault on mine, I just embrace it, as it's probably not meant for me, you know, to meditate, and it's not because I can meditate, but in those two minutes, even in 30 seconds, I do amazing journeys that take me to whatever I want to go, whatever I want to learn, whatever I want to do. It doesn't take much, it's just I can go and do it.
Speaker 5:And when I would hear a lot of people say, oh no, I'm at a different hour. You need to do this, you need to pray, you need to do that, and it's like okay, if it works for you, if that's important for you, if it's something that you need, you know, and it hopefully brings you joy and hopefully it brings you a sense of self. It's better than thinking that I have to do this. It was, then, definitely different than going. You know, being raised Catholic, saying going to the church and doing those rituals getting up, sitting down, kneeling down, praying, sitting, and you know, saying a man and repeating the word that we're supposed to be repeating, and we're no longer autonomous. We now become dependent on something outside of ourselves. So even that, oh, I always remember God. It's like, oh, why Isn't God already within you? Do you have to actually remember it? Why do you have to remember? Why do you feel that you need to remember? Isn't God already within you?
Speaker 3:Isn't God always with you? I don't like it. Yeah, I agree with you. But if you're someone like, if you, if you're yourself, if you feel like God is already within me and I feel that, so I feel you don't need to remember. But I think for myself, sometimes I go, so I go far from it, like I allow my thoughts to get very dark. You know what I mean. So what? No, I understand that. But sometimes that remembrance, it's like a candle that gets lit in the dark. You know what I mean. And sometimes, when those thoughts, those thoughts get very, very dark, that candle saves you. You know what I mean. And sometimes I think like, and I allow myself to go as deep into that darkness as I can go, you know what I mean. And when I do, I know there's only the good thing, is there's light in that darkness. You know what I mean. But also, getting away from that is that, that practice of just remembering that it just it calls to me. It really does Like it, just it feels.
Speaker 5:I don't know, it just feels. Then it's perfect for you.
Speaker 3:Exactly, but more and more so than that. What I find is is speaking Right. So you were saying like you like to speak a lot and I thought I'm more so than the meditation or anything else is is, when I pray, I'm not saying prayer like our father or what, and not like that. I just start to speak Right and I'll just sit there and I'll just speak, and I think I've talked about this before. Right, what usually what I'll do is I'll speak If I don't even know what I'm going to say. I always start what I'm grateful for. So I'm grateful that we even do this on Wednesdays. I'm grateful.
Speaker 3:I just start saying things, but not bullshit grateful Things I'm truly grateful about, like I'm grateful, like Isabel Covey was like laughing this morning, or I'm grateful, and then for some reason, as I keep doing it, as I keep going in that gratefulness, so I can't explain what happens but there's a moment where it changes and then I feel like okay, now it's now. It's like almost like that Talking about the gratefulness allows me to get out of my mind and I sink down into my heart and then I just start saying things. A lot of times I don't even know what I'm saying and I'm not trying to sound like there's what do you call those Pentecostals where they start going everywhere and they say I don't know what I'm saying, my soul knows what it's saying. I'm not saying that I understand, I can understand what I'm saying, but I didn't mean for it to come.
Speaker 4:You understand what you're saying. It's not like a conscious like, yes, it just comes.
Speaker 3:And when it comes, it comes, it comes. That usually it leaves me in tears, but not tears of sadness, it's more of a I don't know. It's a profound like. That's how I feel. Yeah, exactly yeah, just I don't know. It's like a release or something.
Speaker 3:And I remember a few years ago I had a fire going. I was meditating and I saw something just get to fire and he was going like this. He was on his knees and he was going like this and as if like something was coming out of his heart and he would look at me and he would like like he didn't say nothing. I'm almost like you see, you see, like that. And then when he was doing that, I felt like, oh yeah, that's what I'm doing, right, and I feel that to me that's the true practice. I'm not saying for everybody, but I know for myself.
Speaker 3:That's the real practice, because even if I do that for 10 minutes, it feels like I was sitting in meditation for three hours, in the sense of when I leave, it feels like something recalibrated. My nervous system feels different, my body feels different, my mind feels everything just feels different. It almost feels like you were floating, like you. You know what I mean. You were floating and you came back and I'm not seeing the way that I escape. Yeah, nothing, it's not. It's not that I don't know what you're into, it's you know, it's what. We're just talking, like you do.
Speaker 5:I think those are beautiful things and there are great practices to do, especially if you find it isn't wrong to do, you know, in any way, because it's a great feeling to experience that. Maybe I guess it probably has more to do with the type of person that I am, but maybe even that that perhaps with the other person, yeah, I think that's the way that I'm going to do it. I think that's the way that I'm going to do it. I think that's the way that I'm going to do it. I think that's the way that I'm going to do it. I think that's the way that I'm going to do it. I think that's the way that I'm going to do it. I think that's the way that I'm going to do it.
Speaker 5:You know, in a place where you know, in a place where you know, where there's a lot of things that don't really work out in any form that I look for. But once I, you know, then started working with the guides, actually they started providing solutions to everything, and I am more at peace than I've ever been in my whole entire life, ever since you know and I don't feel the need to I know what you're talking about and I can experience it and I can get myself there and I enjoy it, but it's so much easier Even in those moments, though, I tend to be like a happy person, like I'd like to be, you know, not that I'd like to be, but it's just my state of being. It's more into positivity, kind of seeing that there's always a way out, there's always a solution, and eventually I'll figure it out, that kind of thing, and so I don't like to stay in places that I can't get myself out of. I don't like the way to get out of it, but I also don't want to go back to, you know. So, whenever I find a solution of B that's gonna be forever, but not going back there.
Speaker 3:I just want to say also when I'm saying it, I even told him about going to dark places and I'm not trying to create like this dualistic thing of like if this is dark, then I gotta make sure I get to a lighter place because that's better. I don't want to come off as that. I think when I was younger I did. But something and this is something I was talking to with Layla about earlier is that I realized, like I think, what my confusion was. I always thought in the you know, I've always been a person I'm thinking, you know, looking into myself and all these things, I think when I was younger I mistook that is gonna make me a happy person. And what I realized I don't feel like they have much to do with each other. They do, but not much Like I think an enlightened person can be a depressed man. I mean it doesn't necessarily mean being so close to God, means all of a sudden you're like this happy guy all the time, you know. But I think when I was younger I was had all these practices that I was doing with this hopes, that eventually it's just like you're gonna have this big realization and like there I got it. You know what I mean. What do you need? You need some help. I'm gonna help you.
Speaker 3:You know like you're gonna, and as I get older I realize, no, I don't think that's the case, because you know the human Jesus when he got arrested he was crying like a baby. You know what I mean. Like I don't just feel like. This is just also being a human being, right, and we're here having a human experience. And something that Pino talks like my cousin Pino talks a lot about is being okay with that and allowing yourself to feel like, yeah, I'm broken, like I'm, and that's okay. I'm a human being, and there's something in that that makes it soft. You know, it softens it a little bit, and then it actually makes you feel compassion for your fellow. You know buddy, you know just buddy person, I guess it's I think a fellow traveler, yeah, fellow traveler or whatever it is. You know, yeah.
Speaker 5:And that's my B2. I'm not. What I find interesting is probably and I'm not again we're talking and sharing our experiences and probably I'm maybe not understanding where you're coming from in this regard, which is fine, you know, really. But for the sake of even perhaps for other people to you know, to relate to things that we're saying and that this is what we're doing, what we're doing Like for me, I'll give you this example of the biggest nourishment, and maybe that's what it comes down to what does actually nourishment? And even when we're talking, you know, when I usually talk to people, we're really coming down to this, figuring out what really nourishes your soul. And I never steer away from not feeling the full extent of emotions. I usually used to bother me when people would say, oh, if you get angry, then you're not spiritual enough, and I'm like what, what, what? Well, you're just maybe angry right now. So there you go, you know, or like they have to be I told you. I told you. I just said, did I just say?
Speaker 5:So it's like those type of conditions to me didn't seem like the go because it takes away from you we're here to. We have so many different emotions, of course women to feel them all. I'm not gonna feel bad for feeling, you know, for getting angry or even exploding in my anger for a short period of time.
Speaker 5:I don't wanna feel that emotion. I'm not gonna shut me down anymore. It's but it's. I find that, in the process of having learned to do that, those explosions no longer happen because you're no longer, you know, keeping it bottled up inside, so you no longer have to meet with that darker aspect of yourself, because it's just a bubble of emotions and you keep shutting down over and over and over again and they're not getting addressed or giving a voice, or even giving air.
Speaker 5:My biggest nourishment is just things, just simple things around me, like this year, I planted these California poppies in front of the window where I work, where I have my sink, and so every time I walk by the kitchen which is the way that my house lay out it happens all the time.
Speaker 5:And they have this most gorgeous shade of yellow. It's like an orange yellow that like shines almost, like it's so bright, it's like a golden. It's just the shade of. It is amazing and to me, seeing that and they bloom the whole entire summer, all the way into September and October, and the plant just flourish, and the more it flourish and the more I enjoy, that gave me the most joy ever, every day that I saw that thing and I love it so much that now I have it, I brought it in the house because I didn't want it to die in the winter and I want it there and I like hanging there. You know I talk to it every day and you know I'm gonna bring it outside so it gets warm enough, you know, and I'll bring it out To me. That gives me nourishment. It's the same feeling that the way I relate to things and what I find joy in.
Speaker 5:I'd rather find it in something very small than something greater than that because what is small is available to you all the time and I can. That's all I need, you know. But I think when people get away from finding the simplest joy into the things that you have no control over I have no control over that plant, I just put the seed there, but they needed the work and it has nothing to do with me in any sense. But I thank you. Thank you so much for being there. Thank you so much for rocking my day. I just loved it. I absolutely loved it. I even took pictures that every day I would go in there and I would just smile. I was like you're just gorgeous, you know, Wow, that's the kind of stuff that I look into.
Speaker 5:Even making the wonderful top roast it comes out. It's always the best top roast that I've ever made. Every time I make one and it's like. I am so grateful. Look at this good food. You know we have today to eat and that kind of thing. So I always look for the simplest way to bring joy into your life.
Speaker 3:Well, you're saying that to me, simone. I feel like to me that's no different than what that lady is saying, remembering God and everything Like. To me, that's exactly the same thing, because it's not the word that's important, it's that feeling that you're talking about. You know what I mean. It is, yeah, and that's a practice. You know what I mean. You might not look at it as a practice, because you're just doing it Like you're just being who you are. It's always been like that for a while, yeah exactly, but that is a practice.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. Like it's something. It's a practice that you've been doing so much that it's just ingrained in you. It's just what you are, it's a part of your fabric. But I think it's the most important practice.
Speaker 5:Absolutely, it definitely is. Whichever way it comes to you, it definitely is, and it may not make any sense for somebody I understand that it doesn't have to and or some people if I'm difficult to relate to, they may not be able to really find, but I think that can be found in anything. Yeah, I think so. It's as you long to see where you can find beauty or something that has to be beauty, because it just, I guess, the grace of God into things.
Speaker 3:Just so, when we were using the analogy before about the darkness and the candle, I feel like when you're doing that, like oh my God, there's poppies, to me it's like a light in that candle, and then the pot roast that's a candle, and then if you have candles all over the place, how's that ever going to be dark? Everything is lit up, and I think so much so. If you start seeing that and everything, eventually it's just a sun, eventually it's just light and it is. Maybe. That's what it is.
Speaker 5:Because I do feel that happiness around me all the time. It's very readily. I mean the only thing that brings the darkness people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, ok, you could have gone into that, because that's where I went, that's where I went to go.
Speaker 2:I thought that was my mission for the time it wasn't my mission.
Speaker 3:But if it went there, it went there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, edit, edit.
Speaker 3:I know, no, no, but that's the strange part, right, because I feel like I love people, obviously, the work that we do and everything, but I also find that's the hardest. The hardest for me is people.
Speaker 5:You know what I mean, yeah, it's difficult, it is very difficult. I've got to say I had a conversation with a friend of mine, kim Kim Bar, which I think we should probably just have over at one point you know, it would be nice. But it was having a conversation with her, and one of the things that I experienced after working in the hospital, which I work every weekend and this has been going on is that I come home and I can feel my body is completely weighted down. Even throughout this shift, I can feel the weight of the negativity, and I'm not talking about just, you know again, it's not to blame anything on anybody, it's just a heaviness and it just sits on me and it changes me, changes me to the point, and then I turn into this angry, you know, angry bitch that I cannot tolerate, or it makes it difficult for me to actually work with people in that in a much better way. And so in talking to her, it was like, you know, I just don't understand why I come home and I just have to clean myself so much, because I find that I have so much stuff on me, you know, and my thought has been constantly thinking of just other people, things, and she goes well. But if you're not doing this out of joy, then it will make it so that you're changing your shift, your energy frequency changes as you're working because you're not in the place of joy, and so you're supposed yourself to this thing.
Speaker 5:And I was like God damn it. And look at it that way, because it's like you know, in my entire world I bring joy and happiness and I just have to be content to be and don't have any requirements. But in that space I'm not bringing that happiness and joy. I'm almost like refusing to see it. I get like recalcitrant in that space because I don't like it, I don't love it anymore. I see all the negatives. So instead of focusing on the positive, positive I'm actually the more time I spend there, the more I focus on the negative. And so I'm going to actually put it to the test and next time that I go in I am going to try and look at everything you know, see God into everything and into people's behaviors, no matter what, and just consciously trying to do that, and see if I have a different experience into that regard.
Speaker 5:I think it's easy to get into these places where you know we am mass bunch of things and we say I can't deal with people, you know, but people come in all kinds of shades and colors and it's not, you know. But then, at the same time, I say, look, but if I don't want to deal with something, you know I shouldn't have to, at the same time, you know, like if I don't feel that I really care for the type of person that you are, why I should have the right to choose to not have that person in my immediate vicinity, as you know? Or if I was going to say it, but you can do rounds or whatever. I can't think of the word, but you know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I mean it is difficult, but something this is the practice that I do at work is, and I don't know how true the story is, I don't even know where I heard it, but they were saying that this reporter was following Mother Teresa around whatever the hospital and she was going around to all these people and everything else. And the reporter asked like how do you do it, how do you go to see all this people Every day? And she said I don't, I only see one. And that's what I try to do. I try to always say, like you know, sometimes people are difficult and everything else, but for some reason at work I'm able to do it so easy, actually the hardest thing, like I go in there, and I do that Like I'll sit there and I pretend like I go in there. I'm like when I'm touching this person, I'm touching God and in a way, it's true, like I can logically make myself see that like you were created, like you came from something and that something came from nothing and you know, like that whole thing. So when I'm touching them, I'm always thinking like, wow, how special is this? Because this is how God gets to know God is to our interactions with each other. So that's easy for me. Actually, I actually at work, I never like I'll work like Monday's I'm there from nine in the morning. I don't leave until like 8.39 at night. I never feel tired.
Speaker 3:What I find the hardest are the people, my loved ones around me, like when they're not in a good space, and then I feel like it's hard for me to stay in a good space if they're in a bad space. You know what I mean. And then what happens is then it's like you wanna be strong for them and you can't for a while and then afterwards you drop and then it's like then you play in tag, right, it's like I'm not feeling good. Then they say what's the matter? And then you spew your stuff and then they walk away. They feel bad but you kinda feel a little better, and then it's around and around and around. We go, and that's where I have a difficulty of changing that Right and it takes a lot, a lot of for me, a lot of mental work to be like okay, maybe don't spill what you're feeling and try to, just try to change the media on your own and then you know, come back.
Speaker 5:But it's difficult. That I find challenging. Is it because there is a I don't know how to phrase it, but is there like an expectation, like I don't have an expectation or disappointment because your efforts into helping them.
Speaker 3:They may go. You know they may go. Yeah, I think so. I think it's. I think you know like I feel like with people I feel like I always feel like I need to help someone. Like someone comes in, they hurt their foot and I know I'll get them out of the room and they'll feel somewhat better. Look, I know that. But then for some reason, I feel like if you're close to me, it becomes more difficult. You know, even if I'm working on them from an act, just saying we're doing acupuncture, like on my mom or something like that, I just feel like I already know. No, I mean, a lot of my acupuncture friends share the same thing. I just feel like it's not the same. It just feels like something's always in the way or something's not right, something's not like you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Like it's just it used to get me because I used to think, I used to feel that way too. I used to feel that and it would bring me down because I would get so involved in their story and through their dialogue and to have to fix it and then not seeing that going anywhere, and sometimes it would be like you know why am I wasting all this time and all this energy and nothing happens here. You know you're still where you're supposed to be, and then I got tired of getting into these places because they didn't serve, they didn't bring anything good for either and I didn't want to go down, like you're saying, with everybody else. You know the ship is sinking and we're all going down. I don't want that, and it took so much more effort to bring myself up out of these you know the feelings than if I didn't.
Speaker 5:And so when I investigated the situation with my guys after I got to a point where it was willing to accept what they were going to tell me because it didn't happen until it was willing to accept what they were going to tell me the information was it's like you cannot force anybody to feel what they don't want to feel personally, it isn't. If you're looking at them with something they need to be fixing, they actually don't and I felt we were used to fix themselves because you're the one they're seeing the situation and you are the one recognizing something wrong with it instead of being there. Because I see stages there, I know, I know.
Speaker 5:There's a lot you're saying I'm relating to all yeah, and the other thing was that the timing of which someone gets to their own feeling is entirely up to them. It's almost like him was making me feel as if I was being disrespectful to this person for trying to push them to feel before they were ready and I was actually acting as the person. I wasn't seeing them for who they were and honoring them for who they were. I was forcing my way of doing things into them. I was like, oh okay, I'll stop that right away and that teams and now, instead of I create support with a distance and I honor your space and I no longer kind of go down the double, the double into the darkening. It's easier and better. And the one thing they said that I can do is that you always see people as capable. They're people that can do it themselves. They can do it. There's nothing. You're not anything. You know, I'm not anything special. Just because I can see through it. You can sense the guide, not because I'm actually doing it and it's. You know, however far I went to or wherever you know, whatever timing I achieved and certain understanding, it doesn't make it any better work than someone else is thinking and trying to get to the same point, or maybe they got there, there's no difference. But it's their time, it's their story and we need to respect it as being. They don't do that. It's time to know why. We do it for love, we do it because we care, we want to see.
Speaker 5:I know I can fix it too. Of course I do and that's like, but I know I can change it, I know I can fix it. Why isn't it happening? You know, why is it? And that was one of the biggest lessons that I actually had. It changed a lot into how, even when I work with clients, like if I it helped me kind of say no, no, you're not ready. I know you want a session, but you're not ready, you didn't do the work and so we can't do. We can't do the work, you and I talking you will be said you said that to someone that I sent you before and it's like it's it's an eye on that.
Speaker 5:I see them as special meaning, not special and then in fact that you know I will recognize that you have the capability to get in there and I hope that I meet you again along this road. But at this moment I'm not going to do you. It's enough. It's a waste of time. I'm not going to put someone through that. It's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. It wasn't easy to do. I had to wait a month or a couple months up back and became into it. I'm not here to do this. I'm just sitting in myself. I'm very, very busy. I think for you it will probably be. For me it was seeing them as capable, but I think for you it's going to be something different. I don't think that can be the work for you.
Speaker 3:It's going to be something else. No, it's going to be a good one.
Speaker 5:You'll see it, you can always ask your guys and they'll show you.
Speaker 3:Because I think when I'm hearing that what's coming for me, that being on a live, I put a lot of my self-worth in being helpful. I mean so if I'm not helpful, then what am I?
Speaker 5:But that was behind all that. I mean, it was behind it Not as much self-worth as it was a habit of always helping everybody without even asking. It was just everybody always came to me. I was always around to solve everybody's problem and it was like well, you're not doing anybody's and it's very important. You're not like, well, why are you doing it to yourself? You're actually giving your power away. Every time you engage with someone who is not ready to actually heal or work or do anything especially if they remember, and so now I've become really good it's like sorry, I'm sorry. Oh, I love you very much, but yeah, no, well, I'm blessing, I'm praying for them from a distance. I'll do all that, but I'm no longer getting involved. If it's not, I'll do it. You said them not, but you're here, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's all about your safety.
Speaker 4:There's a there's. There were so many times you were talking. I'm like I'm trying paper and pen there's like a question money, what's that? Can I call in Questions? Yeah, we are actually going to do that there's so many things like honestly, I feel like you could like have a whole conversation on when you were talking about going into the dark places. There were so many things you were saying.
Speaker 3:Well, that's why I feel like how the whole thing started was someone had just called me this during the summer, just saying what's up? Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then we got together for dinner and then I was like we should just get together and record our conversations because I just feel like, you know, I think the things that we like to talk about when we interact with each other, the things that we talk about, I just feel like people would not enjoy from an entertainment point of view, because I'm not going to entertain people. If they do, it's nice to. I just feel like I think there's a lot of people like, oh yeah, this person is saying I like these things too. So they don't feel alone. Or they don't feel like, um yeah, like it's okay, I don't, I don't one of the things.
Speaker 3:I feel like I know myself enough to know that. One of the draws is I don't try to pretend I know something right, I know what I know, but I'm also okay to show what I don't Right. It's like you know, that really talks about like, show the sin that you want to continue, make it okay for you. I know I'm messing up how I said it, but like it's kind of like that, like that Now I'm. You know, I did a lot of bad things. I, you know, I I wasn't perfect in you know shape or form, but somehow I still like, I was still able to feel moments of grace. I was still. I got to interact with the beautiful people I got to, like, you know, I feel the life that was very meaningful and beautiful. And I'm still searching, or I'm still not searching, I'm still always, you know, just, and.
Speaker 3:I just feel like with the things that everyone has, all the talents everyone has.
Speaker 5:I feel the same way. I even, since I'm editing things and I listen to Leo yes, I can't say yes, how do you do that for all those hours? They're actually joy, because I think there's just so many little nuggets of wisdom within it and it doesn't. It's not for us to decide where the wisdom is. I love the fact that we're going through much and there is a lot of circle, instead of mimicking it and then over talking about concepts trying to, you know, make chatter. You know, I actually feel like we're going to get into exploration that aren't meaningful and from different point of view than just before, because there are some people who are going to decide with you know your point of view, and decide with other points of view, and you know in their own support and it's important it's not for.
Speaker 5:I also want for people to feel that, no matter what you believe in, what you feel, not to feel so awkward about yourself, not to longer feel like you don't belong because it's actually okay, you know, To show that it's okay, Like you just said, if you show your sin and God knows you know. They say why this people is because they're passing by the station. Yeah, I am. So it's not like it was you know a part of perfect.
Speaker 3:But I love my imperfect. Another beautiful thing that I like is that we're just speaking where we're at, so like even when you're talking when someone was talking to you about your stuff I noticed what gets triggered in me Then.
Speaker 3:I bring it up, and then we bring it up and we talk about it. And then you see, like when we started talking about it and I would see you get this big smile, like that you're resonating with what you said. And then you know what, maybe in a year from now you'll be listening to something and we'll be talking about something totally different because we'll be in different places, and then maybe whoever's listening will resonate with something that we would talk about a year ago, and then we won't resonate what we're talking about a year from now, or vice versa, or whatever it is. It's just like how Simone was singing before, like everyone's just at where they're at Right and we're just at where we're at.
Speaker 4:I feel like there needs to be just like a group of people who just talk about, just like, like I would just love to listen to you while interjecting questions here and there. But, like just there, I love these conversations and probably in the work that you do, you have them a lot. I don't have them as much, but when I do they're so exciting I leave with more answers or I mean questions than answers but it's so fun. Like in coaching, I have one like student who will me regularly half the time we're talking about like different philosophies of like religions or whatever it might be, and it's so much fun. So this is so cool to me.
Speaker 3:Can it be a space for us? We'll have a live studio audience.
Speaker 4:We'll have Colin for you when you start doing that. But no, it's really really cool. Dad will text me at the exact moment that I'm texting him, or I'll call a friend, like the moment I was just thinking about her. Well, that's it. Yeah, I think that's it, that's really it.
Speaker 5:But I didn't do it on like consciously, because you're not connected and you tend to it Because you think it's just happening but you can't control it. And that's why I'm asking well, maybe start doing that, because I have, like it's really strong for me, like I'll know, like somebody's person's name will start popping up in my head and then, shortly after the call, there was text or you know, I would check in and say hey, is everything okay.
Speaker 5:Oh, my God, we're just thinking about you. Something so much is going on in my life, and so I noticed that it was happening so often, just about anybody, that I started, you know, they were all going that way, and I started noticing that I can have a thought and I can send it to the person to the path of believing and they did confirm it, my path of faith, because I believe in it. It's also stronger, I see, and so I can also send it to the person you know in the trouble, but I don't know I really care for it.
Speaker 4:Yeah to like abuse it, Because I'm sure it's going to be right, I wouldn't like it, but you know so, yes, you can definitely use it. So, like, do you just hold? Like, because sometimes I'll try to test it like, even even before not talking about that right, like it might be praying. Okay, prove to me that this is real whatever, and I know that's not the best approach, or it'll be. I just need a sign or whatever. You can always ask that that's a little bit different.
Speaker 5:I mean, like if I, when I used to need confirmation, I would ask for confirmation. I would send confirmation or whatever you know, a sign or whatever you want to follow.
Speaker 5:But in regards to this specific, what you can do, you can test it Because, again, there's different people who are better receptors, kinder than others, and you can say you know you can start before you like when you open your eyes, before you get asked out of bed.
Speaker 5:It's sometimes worse when you get well, like first thing in the morning or if you're, if you're awake and he's asleep and you can say tomorrow, you can, you focus his brain if you want to, or you focus him on him, like visualizing into your mind, right, and you visualize kind of talking to him, you say, or whoever, and you say to yourself tomorrow you're going to mention the color red to me, or you're going to mention Wednesday, or you're going to mention whatever, and you can do it that way and then you let it go, you don't think about it, you know you just have to let it go, and then you wait and see how long it takes for him to mention that color to you and he may just interject and just start putting things like that and it's actually fun and you can do it for fun and see how long you can.
Speaker 4:Usually it'll be in slow motion, but right, that's exactly how my picture would happen in two.
Speaker 5:So, or you want someone to call you, you can also do that kind of thing. It's a you know. Can you please call your handphone?
Speaker 5:You don't get it. You don't get it Whenever. It really depends on you. Like, if you have not to doubt it, not to bring doubt into it, because that will kind of interfere with your channel, okay, but you don't know how strong the channel the other person is. So, not to doubt yourself, because it may have nothing to do with you, but it's more with the other person. It's receiving the message of what we are acting on it and it's also, it's easy, it's significant because you already have very strong connections that they can hear you.
Speaker 5:But it's been stranger, so it's wow.
Speaker 4:So, I can't tell a path if they tell that person on the golf cart to get out of my mind.
Speaker 1:I use it on the street all the time. Yeah, so I have a comment that I was saying especially at this time.
Speaker 5:If I go home at this time, I'll say no gears and no cops. There's never any cops in any road from everyone. I used to also try to make it so that all my lights were green, but I'm stressed about it.
Speaker 4:I've tried that so many times.
Speaker 2:I've done it with parking spots. I've tried that too.
Speaker 4:I think I might just be doubting too much, or? Maybe I tell myself it wasn't meant to be. You weren't supposed to have that spot.
Speaker 5:Well, it's like you know we were talking about before. It's a repetition, so you have to kind of do it over and over again and you have to believe it and it can now be.
Speaker 5:It's without a doubt. There's never any cops. It was one freaking time and I think I was driving with my daughter and she said mommy, can't go that fast, there's going to be a cop. And I was like, don't you dare, there's never any cops. And when I went to the bar we were all slated. I got caught in the car. You know I was like, don't you?
Speaker 3:dare. I had this thing with the cops. I had this thing like every so often. I always get this thing like I haven't been pulled over in a while.
Speaker 2:And then you get pulled over.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not even that much. Within like a week or two, I'll get pulled over.
Speaker 5:But that could be the warning, because you do get those kind of things too, and I've learned to also listen to that. So, like if that thought comes into my mind, I was like, okay, make sure you slow down because there's probably something around the corner. Or even though as much as I'm manifest not having any cops, all that's on an axle just pulls right in front of me and makes me go from 70 to like 30. And I used to get so upset about that. You know it's like didn't you see, didn't you see?
Speaker 2:me coming down that fast.
Speaker 5:You know, I was about to say there's a cop out here behind the bushes you know like. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 3:What you just said there makes you think like something. You know, when I'm at work and a lot of practitioners will say this over, like you know, you'll think of a patient and then a little bit later they'll come in or they'll call you like, hey, can I get in? And you know, I don't really say to my God, I was just thinking about. I don't do that all the time. So then there's a thought like did they call come in because I thought, because I thought of them, or is it because I got the thought because they were already thinking about coming to see me? It could be both.
Speaker 2:I used to be all the time like if I haven't seen a customer in a while, I'd be like you know, frank, I haven't seen bupuban a while, and then, like literally the next day they'd be there.
Speaker 3:Yeah that happens all the time.
Speaker 2:That happened to me all the time at work the other job.
Speaker 5:That means that you've got to be strong. You know whether it's because it's already part of the passage, of it's going to happen, because they're manifesting it Right, because you're picking up that energy, or is your money that's going to be there, so it can go either way. I wouldn't stress about just trying to be kind to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I was just yeah.
Speaker 5:Just make it, just to use it to an end, to the fact that you're pretty powerful. That's all it is. So the more you see yourself, powerful, the better the better.
Speaker 4:You don't want to start using more words?
Speaker 5:Yes, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3:We see like Stacy walking through the lights and doors.
Speaker 2:Everything is right, though she's doing it. This is crazy. I love it. Yeah, that would be me.
Speaker 5:This is a fun thing because nobody has to know. Well, that was something, do you?
Speaker 3:remember it was early on, when we started U of S and you know what we should do we said something I can't remember it now, today no, no, no, it was like one of the I think it was one of the first episode of Things that we Did, okay, and then afterward you said you know that was really powerful? Oh, no, it wasn't. You know what it was when you were talking about when you and Leo were go places and come home with stuff, like you were going to put that in your needs. And then you said, after we talked about it, it stopped. And then you said it worked so well that maybe we should start doing things. Yes, I wanted to start doing my gestation stuff.
Speaker 5:And that's the key point in that intent on it. So we can certainly do it. I wanted to do it where it actually stays in the podcast so that the people actually in that moment can also join in so kind of making it like anything. Yeah, but it intensifies, yeah, but yes, for sure, I think that would be fantastic. Now it's funny that it's starting to go back to where it used to be and I think he's also being affected by that. I have to clear him. I think he's being affected by stuff on him and he had the ability to clear himself, but he doesn't.
Speaker 3:I think at that. I'm the same. What, yeah? So I have a question for you Are you able to identify when it's something from within him or is it something outside of him?
Speaker 5:It's right now. I think it's something outside of him that has embedded on him for a while and, like you like I saw it, like on you, you also, when you said that you started with his thumb thing. But what they do is that they enhance what's already within you and so it becomes this, like those people, that they feel like they're going down a dark place, and often not, and it's because there is something driving there. So it's not necessarily you, because without that you wouldn't even be going there. So I don't, I tried to get rid of it sooner than later, because the more it stays in there anymore and I think that anger that you were talking about when you first, when you first have eyes today, it's usually a result.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was wrong with, just because this is going off of a different tangent. But what I noticed is, you know, with stuff happening with my son, with my wife, like I feel like like something's been disrupting the home. But what I also noticed is and I don't know if the correlate I'm just saying, I was just thinking about it today Is that, according to watching the way my cat stays in the house, if my cat leaves, then like he eats at night, he goes outside and then usually around five, six in the morning, he comes inside now a little earlier because it's cold, so he's calling you a little earlier than me but then he goes inside, he waits until we have breakfast and he eats and then he goes upstairs and he sleeps on either my bed, my little bed, or he's his bed. But now he woke upstairs I can find like he's. He's going to these very odd places to lay down and sleep.
Speaker 5:You got something upstairs in the yeah.
Speaker 3:So I was like. I was like there's something going on, something just started to move.
Speaker 5:My legs really just started to get up. It's a strong friend. I haven't cleared my house in a while. I'm going to have to right now. I'll do it. But, yeah, if you want to start, if you want to start running fast, you want to. You guys want to do it tonight? Yeah, we'll do it, whatever you want to do. So this is for the listeners too. This is a space. Actually, I want to. I need to get rid of that thing because it's already. It's filled in my prayers.
Speaker 5:Alright, we want to create a space to actually manifest it. We're going to start doing this on a regular basis. Where we're bringing to, we're bringing whatever it is that we want to try like that. This is supposed to be done for fun, and this is not just for hospitals, for those that are listening.
Speaker 5:If you want to take a minute or just a second, you can pause the recording and think about what you would like to manifest, and maybe you can go along with that, alright, so in order to bring the manifestation, this is just that. We're doing this for fun. We're not doing this with any type of attachment to actually achieving an outcome, but it is with the intent of doing it to build off the belief around it. You need to start there. You can't just go from. I mean you can, but if you're struggling with thinking that you can actually create something from out of nothing, or you're the type of person that needs to have needs to see it, to believe it, then you'll need to start from, not to have an attachment to the outcome. So you can start small and you can go big, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5:You can also write it down. So if you don't trust your thoughts and you don't have any faith in whichever way you think you can actually operate, or you haven't yet paid attention to like, if you're not really working with your pathotic abilities or your intuitiveness, or your intuitiveness or your abilities, then you may be better off into writing the command, and I want you to make it more like a command and then you can actually use to write it down instead of saying it aloud, and you only want to do it once. So this is not something you need to repeat, because the act of repeating means that you're not trusting and therefore you're eliminating or counteracting because you're felt being put out. So we're going to call in now into all the beings to come forward, into assisting us into manifest whatever it is that we desire, and it is up to you to either say it aloud, which works very well, because then your brain also hears it and you're making a command much stronger, or you can say it within yourself, or you can write it down Either be a quote quote or it's fine, and we're going to give a time frame. We're doing the time frame because where you can actually choose how long you want to manifest. It isn't to trick or to make things more difficult. It's also something you can't omit if you don't want to. The time frame is so that you can actually see the different steps in the last step. So if you want to manifest like $100, you should be able to manifest that anywhere between 24 hours to a week and you can give yourself that time frame to see that money coming in.
Speaker 5:Setting a time limit helps with centering your thoughts towards an outcome, even though we're not thinking about that outcome. It's more for the command, but so that you already established a time frame and then you can throw it away as if you're ready now. Same as if you're putting in an order for a pizza. You call the place, you're putting your order for your pizza and you're waiting until the time that it told you that it's going to take for that pizza to be ready, and then you go on the top of pizza. You don't keep looking at your phone, you don't keep calling the place to see if they're making a pizza. You already know they're making it and you want to make the same type of, have the same type of feeling as when you're doing this kind of thing, and that's the.
Speaker 5:Now you can all go in and put out to be. I've got an intent to do that with my friends. Okay, so we can take in. Later on We'll let you know and we'll talk to everybody about another way of expression. That's what we decided to do with. The share will be at the end of the day.